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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Something, Anything</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Peter Presnell&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; I have updated the text of this entry. It turns out I was wrong in my statement that 8.5 adds "little" for Notes client development. The new Date &amp;amp; Times LotusScript statements and the 4 new LotusScript methods/properties listed in the 8.5 release notes are actually documented as part of Notes 8.0. So it would seem there is im fact NO new Notes client development features that I can find in 8.5.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Close Panels Not USed</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Peter Presnell&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; Note: Designer preferences provide the option to minimize these panels but this steals a fair amount of space. Closing panels manually does not result in the opening when a true Eclipse design element such as X-Pages is open.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Something, Anything</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Peter Presnell&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; Enumerated data types would typically be assigned to a specific class. So from that perspective I would consider them a feature of OOP.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Put in proper editors for LS and Java</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Fredrik Norling&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; If they are just going to wrap the old IDE:s into Esclipe, it's like selling an old car as new car just by doing some paint job. Don't go there IBM. We need a new fresh working Designer that will move Notes forward not backwards.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Something, Anything</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Stan Rogers&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; Enums are OO? (Just askin'. I was under the impression that they were value restrictions on generic types.)&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: GUI Client Tool(s) for compact fixup and updall</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Rob Goudvis&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; Maybe you meant it, but it should be a single tool and it should avoid names like compact and updall. Keeping the term fixing might be a good idea.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Something, Anything</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Matt White&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; My understanding is that 8.5 was meant to be primarily an HTTP release plus the migration to Eclipse for Designer, but all of the things you've mentioned should be added to Designer anyway, so I'm promoting.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Update the Workspace</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Markus Dierker&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; I completely agree with Stan. Higher color depth would be a real good start.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Put in proper editors for LS and Java</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Markus Dierker&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; IMHO There is no point in shipping 8.5 without the Eclipse Editors. As others have said, if you want to fasttrack the IDE into the 21st century these editors are a MUST HAVE. I hope the plan has a chance to be revised.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Something, Anything</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Rob Goudvis&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; I completely support the mentioned LS improvements, or should I say necessities?&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Put in proper editors for LS and Java</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Rod Stauffer&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; As Julian pointed out, first impressions count. Get 'em in there, *before* shipping 8.5. Absolute no brainer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Change the way the Workspace works</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Mike VandeVelde&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; Remember this stuff?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;{ &lt;a href="http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/marybeth?entry=workspace_redesign_2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt; }&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What ever happened to all that? I really liked the idea of ripping off Windows Explorer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thumbs up.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Change the way the Workspace works</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Devin Olson&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; Friggen awesome idea Nathan. I was planning on voting "no" just to be a PIA, but this one is so good I simply cannot. I vote yes.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Update the Workspace</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Stan Rogers&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; ... and yet it would only take a color depth increase to make it the paragon of modern "picker" GUIs. Gimme Gummi!&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Quickr sidebar for Mac OSX client</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Bill Buchan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; The quickr Components are the primary reason to upgrade to QuickR from Quickplace (look+feel aside). Why miss out on the OS/x platform when IBM are committed to supporting windows, linux and OS/x ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---* Bill&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Put in proper editors for LS and Java</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Bill Buchan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; Woops; Should have been { &lt;a href="http://www.domiclipse.com/domiclipse/web.nsf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt; }&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---* Bill&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Put in proper editors for LS and Java</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Bill Buchan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; hint. Check out Domeclipse.org...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---* Bill&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Put in proper editors for LS and Java</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Thomas Bahn&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; IMHO: False priorities!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And history tells IBM not always brings good ideas to an good (and usable) end... DXL... :-(&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;IBM, please throw in MORE resources into the Domino Designer team. PLEASE!&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Put in proper editors for LS and Java</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Matt White&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; Very well put Julian. I really, really hope that someone from IBM is listening to this.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<title>re: Put in proper editors for LS and Java</title>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; Julian Buss&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment:&lt;/b&gt; And if it's planned for 8.5.1, I recommend to delay 8.5 until these editors are ready. We will get a burst of laughter in the market when we have an Eclipse based designer which uses a Java editor from the stoneage, and a LotusScript editor without classbrowser. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; One point of the whole Eclipse stuff is to attract new developers. Imagine a developer who uses Eclipse on a everyday basis opening Domino Designer the first time, trying to edit some Java stuff. Good god, he will have a good laugh, close it and go back to other development environments... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I am glad that IBM made it that we don't need to apologize for using Lotus Notes anymore. &lt;br /&gt; I do not wish to keep apologizing for using Domino Designer! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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